Comments on: Is the course of alternative energy stocks influenced by the price of crude oil? http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/ How Can We Be More Energy Efficient? Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:41:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Jelly Roll Capital CFA http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-155 Jelly Roll Capital CFA Mon, 12 May 2008 22:19:06 +0000 http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-155 To answer your question: yes, the price of oil influences alternative sources. Thats Economics 101, substitution. To tell you what to do about alternative energy, I can only say that I agree with Muncie that ethanol is not the answer to America's energy problem. I believe synfuels (made primarily from coal) will be a large part of the answer. If you are familiar with Sasol (ticker: SSL) in South Africa, you'll know what I'm talking about. I think Sasol is a good alternative energy play, but the better one is Headwaters (ticker: HW). If you want to read about Headwaters, there is a free research report at (ad supported, PDF format) for you to read. If you have any questions, feel free to email me at Hope this helps. To answer your question: yes, the price of oil influences alternative sources. Thats Economics 101, substitution.

To tell you what to do about alternative energy, I can only say that I agree with Muncie that ethanol is not the answer to America’s energy problem. I believe synfuels (made primarily from coal) will be a large part of the answer. If you are familiar with Sasol (ticker: SSL) in South Africa, you’ll know what I’m talking about. I think Sasol is a good alternative energy play, but the better one is Headwaters (ticker: HW). If you want to read about Headwaters, there is a free research report at (ad supported, PDF format) for you to read.
If you have any questions, feel free to email me at
Hope this helps.

]]> By: Frank Castle http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-154 Frank Castle Mon, 12 May 2008 17:48:59 +0000 http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-154 Yes. If Oil costs $100.00 USD and Ethanol costs $50.00 then Ethanol Stocks will rise. If the Oil costs $25.00 and Ethanol costs $26.00 then Ethanol Stocks will drop. Yes.

If Oil costs $100.00 USD and Ethanol costs $50.00 then Ethanol Stocks will rise.

If the Oil costs $25.00 and Ethanol costs $26.00 then Ethanol Stocks will drop.

]]> By: NC http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-153 NC Sat, 10 May 2008 05:11:31 +0000 http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-153 People tried that in 1980s and were largely disappointed; oil proved to be a more lasting resource than many thought, while the alternatives were not as warm and fuzzy as it first appeared. Ethanol, in particular, if it were to replace a large percentage of oil, would require a manyfold increase in acreage of corn and sugar cane, which in turn would put quite a bit of pressure on the water resources. Also, it is far from certain at this point which of the alternative fuels (ethanol, gasoline from coal, gasoline from natural gas, tar sands, oil shales, biodiesel), if any, will be more profitable in the long run. So far, biodiesel is a clear laggard, but people bet on it anyway hoping that better engineering would eventually bring the cost down... All in all, alternative energy should be thought of as speculative investment. People tried that in 1980s and were largely disappointed; oil proved to be a more lasting resource than many thought, while the alternatives were not as warm and fuzzy as it first appeared. Ethanol, in particular, if it were to replace a large percentage of oil, would require a manyfold increase in acreage of corn and sugar cane, which in turn would put quite a bit of pressure on the water resources.

Also, it is far from certain at this point which of the alternative fuels (ethanol, gasoline from coal, gasoline from natural gas, tar sands, oil shales, biodiesel), if any, will be more profitable in the long run. So far, biodiesel is a clear laggard, but people bet on it anyway hoping that better engineering would eventually bring the cost down…

All in all, alternative energy should be thought of as speculative investment.

]]> By: muncie birder http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-152 muncie birder Thu, 08 May 2008 23:11:57 +0000 http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-152 This is a very difficult question to answer. I do have one thought. There is no way ethonol is economical, at least as manufactured in the U S. It requires more energy to make the stuff than than it provides. It is a Bush scheme to make the public believe we are doing something. Of course the government provides a subsidy at taxpayers expense. Good for the farmers however. Might buy fertilizer stocks or Deer. I did buy stock in a wind turbine company. Hopefully it was a good idea. Only time will tell. VWSYF This is a very difficult question to answer. I do have one thought. There is no way ethonol is economical, at least as manufactured in the U S. It requires more energy to make the stuff than than it provides. It is a Bush scheme to make the public believe we are doing something. Of course the government provides a subsidy at taxpayers expense. Good for the farmers however. Might buy fertilizer stocks or Deer.

I did buy stock in a wind turbine company. Hopefully it was a good idea. Only time will tell. VWSYF

]]> By: PAYDAY http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-151 PAYDAY Mon, 05 May 2008 11:42:18 +0000 http://www.energy--talk.com/alternative-energy/is-the-course-of-alternative-energy-stocks-influenced-by-the-price-of-crude-oil/70/#comment-151 Energy is a sector and oil is the big gorilla of that sector. The sector wil follow the proce of crude until an alternative enrgy becomes profitable beyond just a feel good green investment. Energy is a sector and oil is the big gorilla of that sector. The sector wil follow the proce of crude until an alternative enrgy becomes profitable beyond just a feel good green investment.

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